tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post5674363546863840539..comments2024-03-09T05:53:59.542-05:00Comments on Oz and Ends: Scott Beatty on RobinUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-3791787300766072772009-03-07T23:35:00.000-05:002009-03-07T23:35:00.000-05:00Yeah, that’s a rough scene, an epitome of the DC U...Yeah, that’s a rough scene, an epitome of the DC Universe post-Code and post-<I>Crisis</I>. <BR/><BR/>It’s based on a story Dick Grayson tells Tim Drake in <I>Robin</I>, #0, but much nastier.<BR/><BR/>Hope you like the mix o’ stuff I think about.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-91502133558701311932009-03-07T16:45:00.000-05:002009-03-07T16:45:00.000-05:00Editorial mandates can give, and they can also tak...<I> Editorial mandates can give, and they can also take away.</I><BR/>Too, too true.<BR/><BR/>I recently reread 'Robin: Year One' and had to put the book down for a moment, when I reached the part where Two-Face beats him up. <BR/><BR/>(Hi, I found this site while looking for Robin-y things, but I am also happy to read about things like 'Twilight' related CFPs.)fyn scarlet reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05989059731250192270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-5860465931710538932009-03-06T15:28:00.000-05:002009-03-06T15:28:00.000-05:00I think we're in accord in mourning the loss of Di...I think we're in accord in mourning the loss of Dick Grayson's gradual and dignified transition from Robin to Nightwing in the <I>New Teen Titans</I> magazines of the early 1980s. <BR/><BR/>That all seems to have been wiped away, post-<I>Crisis</I>, in a bid for more conflict between him and Bruce Wayne. But writers and fans who follow the current DC continuity are stuck with that, I'm afraid.<BR/><BR/>When I came back to comics after two decades, I was surprised to find the relationship between Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon front and center. I'd missed their flirtation in the late 1970s <I>Batman Family</I>. As far as I knew, Dick moved straight from Betty Kane and Duela Dent to Koriand'r, which was obviously a step up. <BR/><BR/>Now Dick appears to have been sleeping around on both his main inamorata, which strikes me as completely out of character. Someday I'll do a "Sex Life of Dick Grayson" series with more thoughts on that. <BR/><BR/>For now, I'll just point out that editorial mandates drove the creation of a new Robin in the early 1980s, letting Dick find his own adult identity. And editorial mandates built the wall between Nightwing and the Titans in the late 1990s. Editorial mandates can give, and they can also take away.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-57947239213910111122009-03-06T13:48:00.000-05:002009-03-06T13:48:00.000-05:00The trouble is that Nightwing Year One (Which ran ...The trouble is that Nightwing Year One (Which ran from NW 101 to 106) continued Dixons editorially mandated ignoring of Dick's Titans connections which ran through his entire work with the character. <BR/><BR/>Gone were the influence of the Titans and Starfire on his growing up and away from being the other half of "Batman and " , and his own assertion of an independent identity which Wolfman and Perez NTT had given us. <BR/><BR/>Instead we got the infamous "You're fired for no earthly good reason" moment of ghastliness from Batman, modifed a little so it's not that Dick was shot by the Joker, but that Dick dared tell Batman the Titans were important to him. Aside from one quick phone call from Donna we never saw them again, instead we got Dick showing off to Barbara and flirting with her (Which, as he was in a committed relationship with Starfire at the time, just seemed insanely tacky.)<BR/><BR/>NWY1 alas maintained the "dragging Dick back into the Batverse" and "The Titans are irrelevant to Dick's character growth" tropes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com