tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post3171185044158691843..comments2024-03-09T05:53:59.542-05:00Comments on Oz and Ends: The Evolution of Pop Culture IconsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-70230731054338661992008-08-01T09:31:00.000-05:002008-08-01T09:31:00.000-05:00Yes, Baum referred to Grimm and Andersen in his in...Yes, Baum referred to Grimm and Andersen in his introduction to <I>Wizard</I>, discussed <A HREF="http://latereviews.blogspot.com/2007/01/heartaches-and-nightmares.htmlhttp://latereviews.blogspot.com/2007/01/heartaches-and-nightmares.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. I consider that as much marketing copy, positioning his book for America on the verge of a new century, as an expression of Baum's working method. <BR/><BR/>If we date the Grimms' tales to when they were published and popularized, then there might indeed be parodies, dramatizations, and dark versions in the following decades following the basic timeline that Hatcher traced. I don't know that German literature well enough.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-79145526449844513002008-08-01T08:54:00.000-05:002008-08-01T08:54:00.000-05:00I guess I was particularly thinking about parodies...I guess I was particularly thinking about parodies and such closer to the time of the Grimms, in particular, since they were so popular. In fact, wasn't Baum referencing them in his intro to The Wizard of Oz?Monica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-76122709909998946632008-07-30T12:29:00.000-05:002008-07-30T12:29:00.000-05:00Quite so, though it's hard to locate their origins...Quite so, though it's hard to locate their origins and therefore see if the early parts of Hatcher's model apply. By this point, they're so old that we seem to see every manifestation at once: straightforward tellings for kids, parodies, sequels, adaptations, dark versions—not to mention scholarly examinations.J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-77476566790211384012008-07-30T10:54:00.000-05:002008-07-30T10:54:00.000-05:00I should say, seems to me fairy tales are as much ...I should say, seems to me fairy tales are as much pop cultural icons as anything else.Monica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-31388867701828661202008-07-30T10:53:00.000-05:002008-07-30T10:53:00.000-05:00Or how about the fairy tales of the Grimms? One of...Or how about the fairy tales of the Grimms? One of my favorite Cinderella knock-offs is by Ring Lardner. All guys and dolls. I've seen parodies and play-offs of those as far back as the time of their publication.Monica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.com