tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post5968090498885700853..comments2024-03-09T05:53:59.542-05:00Comments on Oz and Ends: The Exaggerations of Dick Grayson’s Love LifeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-78957875997277955802018-10-11T22:32:12.349-05:002018-10-11T22:32:12.349-05:00Thanks for the summary of a path DC didn't tak...Thanks for the summary of a path DC didn't take. In this long essay, I discussed only the stories the company actually published in the post-<i>Crisis</i> period. <br /><br /><i>Flash</i>, #81, appears to be an odd relic of the original plans for a happy marriage between Nightwing and Starfire. They appeared in that issue, helping their old Titans friend Wally West, with no hint that the wedding had gone so terribly. J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-44054727136193610102018-10-11T18:40:57.070-05:002018-10-11T18:40:57.070-05:00Dick and Kory were originally intended to become h...Dick and Kory were originally intended to become happily married in New Titans #100.<br /><br />Originally, writer/artist Art Thibert was going to do a Nightwing mini-series that would run in 1992, concurrently with New Titans #93-99.<br /><br />The series, co-written with Pamela Winesette, was about an alien invasion of Earth that led to Starfire being captured and Nightwing has to save her. The main point of the series was to establish Nightwing as an extremely competent hero, and to do so on the largest of scales - in front of the entire superhero community.<br /><br />At the end of the series, Dick would have a newfound confidence and would ask Kory to marry him, she’d accept, and this would all lead into New Titans #100, which would be the marriage of Dick and Kory, which would be handled much like Donna Troy and Terry Long’s marriage in Tales of the New Teen Titans #50.<br /><br />The editor Jonathan Peterson, left DC for Image Comics in 1992. Thibert ended up dropping both series to ALSO go to Image Comics.<br />The new editors instead had New Titans writer Marv Wolfman have a wedding ceremony go awry in New Titans #100 (the minister was murdered by a newly-evil Raven) and the character of Nightwing had a bit of a delay on his road to prominence.<br /><br />The detailed information is here.<br />http://www.titanstower.com/nightwing-mini-series-plans-1991/Raymond Nolan Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759194843063724057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-84222655729560465232012-11-18T20:11:00.661-05:002012-11-18T20:11:00.661-05:00I tried to allude to Liu as the "criminal who...I tried to allude to Liu as the "criminal who lured a teen-aged Dick away from Wayne Manor." Tim never seems to have spotted her in all his young snooping.<br /><br />In very broad strokes, we might say that 1980 to 1993 or so was all about Dick and Koriand'r, and 1993 to 2005 about Dick and Barbara (with occasional side journeys destined to go nowhere). Since “One Year Later,” in contrast, writers have come up with new love interests for whatever overarching plots they have in mind. J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-38357821801800773512012-11-18T19:40:30.865-05:002012-11-18T19:40:30.865-05:00Fun post and agreed that Dick's sex life isn&#...Fun post and agreed that Dick's sex life isn't nearly as huge as it's assumed it is.<br /><br />Though it might be worth mentioning Liu, Dick's "first sexual partner" that Wolfman retconned into Dick's past during his brief Nightwing stint in the 2007/8. Of course, it turns out she'd a villain who is using Dick Grayson to try and get into Wayne Enterprises HQ for some nefarious reason. It was all sort of pre-cliché'd.Icon_UKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-17022241833484108262012-11-12T00:29:58.158-05:002012-11-12T00:29:58.158-05:00I decided to discuss only the relationships that T...I decided to discuss only the relationships that Tim mentions, which are all post-<i>Crisis</i>. That leaves out the skater Dick had his first crush on, his gradual warm-up to Betty Kane before the “New Look,” his college girlfriend Lori, whatever was going on with Duela Dent in the 1970s, and the vampire Dala. <br /><br />I too dislike DC's latter-day treatment of Dick's long love affair with Koriand'r. I think it should be possible to portray his long-term relationship with Barbara Gordon as healthy without suggesting there was anything shallow or one-sided about his earlier relationship. Parts of <i>Nightwing Annual</i>, #2, simply have no place in my personal canon. <br /><br />As to current Dick Graysons, I can't tell what's going on in the comics, but I'm struck by how the <i>Young Justice</i> magazine suggests Dick:<br />(a) has a significant number of ex-girlfriends in the superhero community by the age of nineteen or so.<br />(b) is on good terms with all of them, suggesting that he treats them well while they're together and after they break up. J. L. Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405157000473731801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-26241967031219211822012-11-11T21:58:40.375-05:002012-11-11T21:58:40.375-05:00I hated what was done to the Dick-Kory relationshi...I hated what was done to the Dick-Kory relationship. It was depicted all along as one of love and commitment, later retconned with Kory being the 'needy' one. Really stupid and unfortunate, and it nearly ruined Kory's characterization. It also messed up Dick's characterization as a dog around town, but I suppose that was to build him up with the fanboys. With Kory he was a one woman man and totally devoted.<br /><br />You forgot Bette by the way; he always rebuffed her after the original Titans run, but wasn't she initially introduced as his primary love interest when she was Batgirl?LC Douglasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250961297714038453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28103455.post-48602560034951192492012-11-11T20:50:48.581-05:002012-11-11T20:50:48.581-05:00Great post! I'm not entirely convinced Dick ha...Great post! I'm not entirely convinced Dick had relations with Emily, though, simply because he slept on the couch and she suggested counseling. But hey - he tried to be a stand-up guy in a bad situation (fake marriage).Thoughtshttp://thoughtsaboutdickgrayson.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.com